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Glenn Frey
Interview Magazine
April, 1986
By Jeff Yarbrough
Glenn Frey is suffering from a hangover. It is not his first
hangover nor will it be his last. Frey was co-founder with Don Henley, of one of
the most successful rock groups of all time, the Eagles. The Eagles sold over 50
million albums, generated four number-one singles, four number-one albums, four
Grammy awards and had countless tours throughout the world. Frey admits that
hangovers are no longer as commonplace as they were during the turbulent days of
writing such hits as "Tequila Sunrise," "One of These
Nights," "Life in the Fast Lane" and "Hotel
California." Now 37, he has decided to change his image and his life. He no
longer hides from interviews and he's given up the abusive life in the fast
lane. Frey has also used television better than any other rock artist to raise
his public profile from obscurity to noticeability. He starred in an episode of
"Miami Vice" as a spaced-out audiophile-junkie pilot, who suicidally
flies Crockett and Tubbs into Colombia’s cocaine country. Frey recently joined
the ranks of Michael Jackson, Lionel Richie and Michael J. Fox by making a
commercial for Pepsi. Soon, he will appear in a major motion-picture, "Let’s
Get Harry," with costar Robert Duvall.
Since Frey's mysterious split from Eagles, he's recorded two
solo albums, "No Fun Aloud" and "The Allnighter." He will
soon begin recording his third solo album and has recently returned from his
house in Aspen to his bungalow in Los Angeles’ Coldwater Canyon. Frey sits in
his living room, with a fire in the fireplace, smoking cigarettes and having a
beer to soothe his aching head.
JEFF YARBROUGH: Despite the fact that you've been a public
figure and a rock star for years, you rarely give an interview. There is very
little known about you. You grew up in Detroit, right?
GLENN FREY: I grew up running in Detroit! I went to school
with the sons and daughters of automobile factory workers-fathers who beat their
wives and beat their kids. The kids would then go to school and beat on me! My
father was a machinist in a shop that built the machines that build car parts. I
had a pretty normal childhood. My parents weren't drinkers. I always had
clothes. I always went to camp for a week in the summer. My parents didn't have
enough money to buy me a car when I turned 16, but I had a great childhood.
JY: It looks like your nose has been broken.
GF: My younger brother hit me in the face with a baseball bat
when I was thirteen. Never catch without a mask.
JY: Your parents must be proud of your success-the records,
television, movies....
GF: Yes, but I think there was a time when they worried about
me. The last two years with the Eagles were pretty intense times. There was a
lot of drinking and we were all getting high a lot. My parents were relieved
when I got off the Eagles treadmill. There were times when I couldn't make a
simple decision without calling three or four other people. It was all pretty
sick.
JY: The Eagles rarely rested?
GF: There was no time. We were making all that money-millions
of dollars-and buying houses left and right, but we'd
have
no time to visit them. After Hotel California, I spent a year at the Grove Isle
Hotel in Miami trying to squeeze out The Long Run.
JY: The Long Run is the end of the Eagles story. Start at the
beginning.
GF: It was 1967, and the hippie thing was happening. I got
into experimenting with drugs while I was in college in Michigan. I didn't
really try hard in college-I was much more interested in going to see the
Grateful Dead at the Grandee Ballroom. I had been bitten by the rock 'n' roll
bug, and I was sitting there in Detroit thinking, "God, Buffalo Springfield
is 2,000 miles to the west, and the Byrds, and the Beach Boys." I read the
Life magazine articles about free love and free dope in California. I said,
"That's the place for me," and at age 20 I drove to Los Angeles. On my
first day in L.A., I met J.D. Souther, and I've been with
Texans ever since. I spent three and a half years with J.D., nine years with Don
Henley, and my wife is from Fort Worth. I'm a prisoner of the Lone Star Army.
JY: How was Linda Ronstadt involved in the genesis of the
Eagles?
GF: J.D. and I were going nowhere. David Geffen was very
interested in J.D. but only mildly interested in me, so we were basically
"musicians at liberty." We were sitting around the Troubadour in May
of 1971, and Linda Ronstadt asked us to join her on her upcoming tour. We needed
a drummer, though. I saw Don Henley at the bar one night and said, "You
know, your band is really going nowhere fast, so why don't you go on the road
with Ronstadt. She's looking for a drummer-$200 a week, plus per diem." The
first stop on the tour was the Cellar Door in Washington, D.C. After that first
gig, Henley and I decided we'd start our own band.
JY: At the height of the Eagles' success, the band began to
fall apart. What happened to one of the most successful rock groups
of all time?
GF: If you were to ask a struggling, 25-year-old musician,
"How would you like to sell 18 million albums?" he'd say, "Yeah!
Damn right I would." The next question is, "How would you like to try
to make another record after the one that sold 18 million albums? How would you
like to try to make one as good as the one that sold millions and millions of
records?" Somebody asked my friend Bob Seger, Why do you think the Eagles
broke up? He said, "Hotel California."
JY: You and Don Henley had trouble collaborating on The Long
Run.
GF: Don and I did not have any fun working on The Long Run
together. Hemingway said that he'd write in the morning and always quit before
he got stuck. The next day, he would feel like writing again because he had
positive thoughts about the previous day's work. We were at a stage where there
were no positive thoughts about the previous day's work. Henley and I would sit
across from each other for hours not saying a word. We would sit trying to
write, but we were both afraid to suggest a lyric or a chord in case it wasn’t
perfect-in case it wasn't great.
JY: When the album was completed did you know the Eagles were
finished?
GF: No, I think we were going to try to hang in there. We did
a tour of large arenas for The Long Run. But then I realized the Eagles were
running my life.
JY: You left the band first?
GF: It was all my fault.
JY: When you left the band did you have an identity problem?
The Eagles were certainly not a recognizable group.
GF: Yeah, we should have put our faces on the covers of our
albums instead of all of those cow skulls. As a solo artist-in the music
vernacular-I had an image problem. Now, and in the last two years I’m making
an effort to make my profile a little higher.
JY: The Eagles still sell a lot of records and still generate
a lot of rumors. The group never gave an interview, yet stirred up a lot of
controversy.
GF: We didn't give interviews because when the Eagles gave a
concert we wanted it to be an event. We wanted people to
imagine what we were all like.
JY: With the Eagles behind you, you embarked on a solo
recording career. Did you harbor any fears that you wouldn't make it on your
own?
GF: Nobody told Don Henley or me that we were going to make
it as solo artists, but I can speak for Don when I say that we are both really
happy now that the band is not together.
JY: How did you get a part on Miami Vice?
GF: I was contacted when I was filming the video for
"Smuggler's Blues." Miami Vice was filming its first episode and they
wanted to get the show somehow involved in the video. Something like a badge
that said "Miami Vice" being flashed around or starting the video with
the camera locked on a black file cabinet labeled "Miami Vice." Then
they offered footage from the show, but, in the end, we were too rushed to work
out the details and passed on involving them in the video in any way.
JY: You may have passed on them, but they obviously didn't
pass on you.
GF: After we’d finished the video, Michael Mann called and
wanted to have lunch. I'd never met Michael Mann in person, so I went the
blue-suit routine-full Wall Street. I'm sitting at the bar in Le Dome, awaiting
the arrival of the executive producer of Miami Vice, and in walks this guy in
white Levi's, sandals and a Hawaiian shirt. I wore a suit so he wouldn’t think
I was a rock 'n' roll weirdo. Boy, did I figure this guy wrong. Michael sat down
with me, never asked me if I could act, and explained to me his concept of an
episode based on "Smuggler's Blues." "You're going to play this
guy Jimmy, and you'll be great."
JY: "You Belong to the City" was the song used in
this season's opening show for Miami Vice.
GF: Michael Mann called me last year and said they wanted a
song for the opening episode, so I wrote " You Belong to the City." I
have a great relationship with Miami Vice, and I'm happy to say that the
projects I've been involved with have been some of their best stuff.
JY. Your acting career started without much effort or
thought. Did you ever consciously consider acting as an alternative to your
recording career?
GF: How long am I going to be able to go out onstage and play
rock 'n' roll and look young and vibrant? Acting is something I can do until the
day I die. Instead of my life consisting of going out on the road, going home,
resting up, writing songs, rehearsing, recording albums and going back on the
road, I have acting projects. This way my life is a lot more interesting.
JY: You and your wife, Janie, share your time between houses
in Coldwater Canyon, Aspen and Hawaii.
GF: When you're lucky enough to have money and to have a job
that you love to do, you should have a good time. Janie and I live most of the
time in Aspen, but I can't write there. I have to do my writing in Hawaii or
here in Los Angeles.
JY: Janie runs a gallery in Aspen, right?
GF: Yes, and it's taken the town by storm. It's called Janie
Biggs'’ Fine Arts Limited. Her last show was an exhibit of selections from Jack
Nicholson's private collection. Chagall, Matisse, Picasso-they were all in
there. Janie has taught me to appreciate fine art. Except for a few guitar
chords everything I've learned in my life that is of any value I've learned from
women
JY: At age 37, you've accomplished so much and made a lot of
money Do you still set goals for yourself?
GF: I think it would be nice to sell fifteen million albums
as a solo artist. I'd have to deal with all the repercussions of that but that
wouldn't be too bad.
JY: But you can't break up with yourself because of the
pressure of a big-selling album.
GF: That's right, I can't! I think I have a long way to go as
a recording artist. I think I can still write better songs, sing better and make
better-sounding records. The rest is gravy. If you get a chance to be in a film,
that's great. One of my goals is to make a record as good as Don Henley’s
album, Building the Perfect Beast.
JY: I've heard that the two of you are considering a
collaboration of some kind
GF: After the MTV awards, Don and I stayed up all night and
had a little party for ourselves up in The Carlyle hotel with some friends and
drank about five bottles of Roederer Cristal. We talked about getting together
to write some tunes again I would still like to do that. Don said that night,
"We'll do it like the old days. We’ll have a couple of beers, catch a
buzz, and you'll go over to the piano and start playing some chords. Then we'll
make up some cool lyrics and the next thing you know, we’ll have ourselves a
couple of good songs." I think enough time has passed that the pressure
wouldn't be as great as it once was. I really miss working with Don.
JY: Could that collaboration lead to a reunion of the Eagles?
GF: No, I don't think so. We were offered two million dollars
to play the US Festival and two and a half million to play the second one. One
of my managers at the time said, "Come on, you rehearse for a couple of
weeks, you play the gig, that's it." He had just gotten a divorce from his
wife and I said, "I'll go rehearse with the Eagles if you'll go back for a
couple of weeks with your wife." He said, "It's not the same."
The hell it isn't. Any reunion of the Eagles would only serve to dilute what
we've already achieved. I can't see myself at age 41, up onstage with a beer
belly singing "Take it Easy." Without a reunion, the Eagles are
forever young, like James Dean.
Thanks go to Michelle for typing/scanning this up for us
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